Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 7 – Radio Interview Rebuttal

Case Background:

We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:
Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 6 – article

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner has continued using insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them.  He has harassed and followed survivors and survivor advocates around the Internet for the last several years. Aliases have been used adding additional insults and name calling against survivors.

Radio Interview Rebuttal

Recently, Doug Mesner has continued his attacks on Neil Brick and other ritual abuse survivors. He continues his use of name calling and insults against ritual abuse survivors and their helpers. He repeats the same misstatements about the conference we have rebutted in earlier articles on this website. He calls those he has ideological disagreements with as having delusions and paranoia.

In a radio interview this week, Mesner states “The organization S.M.A.R.T is run by this little shit named Neil Brick, he’s actually when I first saw him, he’s this staggering little moron with this greasy combover and thick glasses, and he’s very short and very frail …” Of course, this physical description isn’t true. Mesner paints a false caricature of an ideological opponent to discredit them in the eyes of the reader. This is a dishonest attempt to discredit someone and their ideas. Neil Brick doesn’t stagger, is a genius (test score), doesn’t have thick glasses and is in excellent physical shape now and was at the conference. This fabricated description is part of the false narrative Mesner paints to back up the other false ideas he promotes to incorrectly discredit ritual abuse survivors.

S.M.A.R.T and Neil Brick have repeatedly contested the so-called factual points of his articles and have disproven many of them. Mesner calls Neil Brick’s story delusional, but has no evidence it is, other than Mesner’s own belief system. Of course, this is not evidence of anyone’s delusion, but evidence of Mesner’s disagreement and nothing more.

Mesner analyzes Neil Brick’s motives for having a specific memory of trauma, yet he knows little about Neil Brick and has never had a conversation with him. The fact is that Neil Brick had a memory triggered by specific events that had occured during that weekend. Neil Brick and most survivors critically analyze their memories and make sure that their memories are not influenced by others. Ritual abuse survivors discuss the importance of this a lot. He claims that Neil Brick had an “attack of paranoia.” Of course, he and most survivors do not suffer from paranoia or any other delusional symptoms. To the contrary, many survivors are very concrete in their thinking and do not fully accept any ideas unless they are well proven. Mesner states that Neil Brick “might need some help” without ever having talked to him at length or having any experience in the mental health field, he makes this incorrect statement.

Interestingly, Mesner admitted he used an alias called Lucien Greaves, the leader of the Satanic Temple and as “Lucien Greaves” performed a “Pink Mass” over the grave of the Westboro Baptist Church founder’s mother. An article stated that the Pink Mass is a Satanic ritual performed after death that will turn a deceased person’s straight spirit into a homosexual one. There were also pictures of “Lucien Greaves” on the Internet pulling his penis while rubbing his scrotum on the gravestone. In the state of Mississippi, where this ritual occurred, “Lucien Greaves” was charged by the police with desecration of a grave according to articles on the Internet. (see for information and evidence).

Mesner makes a statement that implies he doesn’t believe that suppressed trauma can cause personal problems, yet this has been proven by scientific research studies to be true. He mentions the backlash after he published his articles. The reality is that ritual abuse survivors wanted to correct Mesner’s repeated misstatements on the Internet and address his personal insults and name calling toward ritual abuse survivors.

Mesner continues his false narrative stating that ritual abuse survivors don’t really care about children and that they don’t care about victims of pedophilia, unless a person is talking about ritual abuse survivors in particular. This is false. One good example is this website . This one website has many articles about all sorts of different types of child abuse, including clergy abuse, cult abuse, organized pedophilia, child trafficking, etc. Many other ritual abuse and child abuse websites cover all of these topics also. He continues by stating that ritual abuse survivors believe that the world owes them everything because they have declared themselves victims. This is not true either. He makes this blanket statement and many others without knowing ritual abuse survivors.

Mesner in essence paints a false picture of ritual abuse survivors and their helpers without any real evidence to try and discredit them. To the best of our knowledge, he has little to no experience dealing with severe abuse survivors and has no training in working with them. Mesner’s vicious vehemence and strong attacks against ritual abuse survivors as well as his use of aliases with different characters could signify that his extreme attempts to disprove ritual abuse and severe abuse crimes could be a form of philosophical reaction formation, which in psychology is a defense mechanism where one acts the opposite way they feel. In this case, he could possibly be denying his own reality so strongly that he needs to deny the reality of others that have suffered severe abuse and ritual abuse.